Comments on: WWI – For this Sydney family it was “on for young and old”. http://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2009/03/18/wwi-for-this-sydney-family-it-was-on-for-young-and-old/ Blog Thu, 02 Feb 2012 19:01:56 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.5 By: Natalie http://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2009/03/18/wwi-for-this-sydney-family-it-was-on-for-young-and-old/comment-page-1/#comment-6791 Natalie Sun, 08 May 2011 12:58:27 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/?p=2271#comment-6791 Hello Wondering how you would find out the name and record of someone who lied to get into WWI? My Grandfather's real name was Reginald Kingsley McBeath born 22 Nov 1895. He apparently signed up under a false name. The problem is he is deceased and noone seems to know his assumed name.. I know I am clutching at straws but you don't know unless you ask. Thanks Hello
Wondering how you would find out the name and record of someone who lied to get into WWI? My Grandfather’s real name was Reginald Kingsley McBeath born 22 Nov 1895. He apparently signed up under a false name. The problem is he is deceased and noone seems to know his assumed name.. I know I am clutching at straws but you don’t know unless you ask.
Thanks

]]> By: Monica http://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2009/03/18/wwi-for-this-sydney-family-it-was-on-for-young-and-old/comment-page-1/#comment-6028 Monica Mon, 28 Feb 2011 11:05:32 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/?p=2271#comment-6028 My GG Uncle served in the 55th Battalion and was killed in France in April 1918. I have just discovered in the Red Cross files that one eye witness says he was shot by "our own M.G.'s". Other accounts say he was shot by the enemy. I look forward to reading the unit history. There are some incredible stories to be re-told. My GG Uncle served in the 55th Battalion and was killed in France in April 1918. I have just discovered in the Red Cross files that one eye witness says he was shot by “our own M.G.’s”. Other accounts say he was shot by the enemy. I look forward to reading the unit history. There are some incredible stories to be re-told.

]]> By: Sue Jamesion http://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2009/03/18/wwi-for-this-sydney-family-it-was-on-for-young-and-old/comment-page-1/#comment-5952 Sue Jamesion Wed, 09 Feb 2011 22:31:12 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/?p=2271#comment-5952 Hi Frank, and thanks for your interest. I believe you should find some of the answers to your questions<a href="http://www.awm.gov.au/encyclopedia/enlistment/index.asp" rel="nofollow"> here.</a> And one of our intrepid AWM Information Services officers has hunted around for you and found the following: <b>Instructions to Enlisting and Recruiting Officers Regarding Enlistment of Recruits in the Australian Imperial Forces:</b> <i>Youths under the age of 21 are not to be enlisted without the written consent of their parents, guardian or other person acting in loco parentis. Married men or widowers under 21 years of age will not be required to produce such written consent. If one parent is deceased or out of the country, a statement to that effect should be included in the certificate of the person who gives consent. When one parent is deceased and the other out of the country, the guardian should make a statement to that effect when giving consent in writing. If there be no legal guardian in Australia, the minor will not be enlisted without the written consent of the parents abroad. When both parents are deceased or out of the country the legal guardian should make that statement when giving consent in writing. If there be no legal guardian in Australia, then the minor will be enlisted on the approval of the Commandant in first case, and on the consent of at least one of the parents abroad in the other case.</i> Cheers, Sue Jamesion – AWM Hi Frank, and thanks for your interest. I believe you should find some of the answers to your questions here.

And one of our intrepid AWM Information Services officers has hunted around for you and found the following:

Instructions to Enlisting and Recruiting Officers Regarding Enlistment of Recruits in the Australian Imperial Forces:

Youths under the age of 21 are not to be enlisted without the written consent of their parents, guardian or other person acting in loco parentis. Married men or widowers under 21 years of age will not be required to produce such written consent. If one parent is deceased or out of the country, a statement to that effect should be included in the certificate of the person who gives consent. When one parent is deceased and the other out of the country, the guardian should make a statement to that effect when giving consent in writing. If there be no legal guardian in Australia, the minor will not be enlisted without the written consent of the parents abroad. When both parents are deceased or out of the country the legal guardian should make that statement when giving consent in writing. If there be no legal guardian in Australia, then the minor will be enlisted on the approval of the Commandant in first case, and on the consent of at least one of the parents abroad in the other case.

Cheers,

Sue Jamesion – AWM

]]> By: Frank Golding http://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2009/03/18/wwi-for-this-sydney-family-it-was-on-for-young-and-old/comment-page-1/#comment-5935 Frank Golding Fri, 04 Feb 2011 07:32:02 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/?p=2271#comment-5935 This is most interesting but...I'm having a devil of a time trying to find just the basic facts about age. What were the rules about age in 1914? Did they change during the War? At what age did you need your parent's approval to enlist ... and to serve overseas? What if you had no parents? Help please! This is most interesting but…I’m having a devil of a time trying to find just the basic facts about age.

What were the rules about age in 1914?

Did they change during the War?

At what age did you need your parent’s approval to enlist … and to serve overseas?

What if you had no parents?

Help please!

]]> By: Greg Howell http://www.awm.gov.au/blog/2009/03/18/wwi-for-this-sydney-family-it-was-on-for-young-and-old/comment-page-1/#comment-4874 Greg Howell Sat, 12 Jun 2010 05:46:14 +0000 http://blog.awm.gov.au/awm/?p=2271#comment-4874 Hi I was asked by the Sutherlands to try and find out more information on Maurice Suterland mentioned in No. 5 above: Annette Gaykema: April 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am Or there was Maurice Sutherland (13380) who claimed to be the oldest WWI digger apparently signing up at the age of 60 (an article was written in the newspaper about him) but his age is recorded on his service record as 44. On the 19.8.17 his service record states that “when on water-cart duty, noticed he was too much exhausted to keep up with cart, and has since become very weak and breathless on the least exertion”. This reason was recorded as “age and strain”. He was declared as medically unfit for service and discharged on 15.12.17. The reason given was “age and debility”. Does anyone know of the article in the newspaper mentioned. Cheers Greg Hi I was asked by the Sutherlands to try and find out more information on Maurice Suterland mentioned in No. 5 above:

Annette Gaykema:
April 23rd, 2009 at 10:04 am

Or there was Maurice Sutherland (13380) who claimed to be the oldest WWI digger apparently signing up at the age of 60 (an article was written in the newspaper about him) but his age is recorded on his service record as 44.

On the 19.8.17 his service record states that “when on water-cart duty, noticed he was too much exhausted to keep up with cart, and has since become very weak and breathless on the least exertion”. This reason was recorded as “age and strain”. He was declared as medically unfit for service and discharged on 15.12.17. The reason given was “age and debility”.

Does anyone know of the article in the newspaper mentioned.

Cheers

Greg

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