From a whisper to a bang! - episode five credits and additional content

Reg Saunders, An Indigenous War Hero

Reg Saunders, An Indigenous War Hero

Episode 05, ‘Defending Country’, released May 27 and for National Reconciliation Week 2019, duration: 58:24.

Warning: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners are advised that the following program (and associated material) contains the names of, references to, voices and images of people who have since passed away.

‘From A Whisper To A Bang!’ is written, produced and presented by Megan Spencer for the Australian War Memorial.



  • General Angus Campbell AO
  • Richard Cruise
  • Dr. Jackie Huggins AM (Bidjara/Birri-Gubba Juru)
  • Captain Reginald Saunders MBE (Gunditjmara)
  • Dr. Peter Read
  • Dr. Brendan Nelson AO


  • Heath Bigg


Additional didgeridoo/yidaki music:

  • Wing Commander Jonathan Lilley (Worimi) 
  • Leading Aircraftsman Brodie McIntyre (Warlpiri)

And music from the ‘From our Country’ memorial dedication, recorded by Stephen Toaldo and performed by:

Special permission was given to perform the ‘Advance Australia Fair’ national by the AWM’s Indigenous Liaison Officer, Michael Bell, along with the For Our Country (memorial) working group. The Ngunnawal transcript of the anthem was provided by Tyronne Bell and Doug Marmion through the AWM. Tyronne and Doug translated the anthem into Ngunnawal language in 2017 and it was performed at Parliament House that same year. 

Additional sound: 


AWM Collection: 

  • Film: Sons of the Anzac (1939-1943). Accession Number: F00188
  • Sound: Captain Reginald Saunders and Dr. Peter Read. Accession Number S00520 Listen to the full interview here
  • Sound: Brodie McIntyre playing didgeridoo/yidaki. Accession numbers: AWM2016.437.2 and AWM2016.437.3. 
  • Listen to the recordings made at: the Aboriginal Plaque on Mt. Ainslie and at The Last Post ceremony NAIDOC Week 2016  


  • Office of Strategic Services Audio, Courtesy: National Archives and Records Administration.

Special thanks:

  • Daniel Browning (Bundjalung/Kullilli ) from Awaye! , Corporal Garth O’Connell (Gomeroi) and Michael Bell for cultural advice and support.

Thank you:

  • To the ‘For our Country’ speakers and performers, and representatives: WC Jonathan Lilley, Lieutenant Commander Bertram Slape (Larrakia), Dr. Jackie Huggins, Major Thomas Dobbs, Major Darren Cole, Chaplain Maumau Monu, SL Gary Oakley, Erika Watson and Bindi Cooper; Amanda Jane Reynolds (Karingai) and Lisa Pellegrino; Aunty Glenda Humes and the Saunders family; Melbourne Museum and Kate McCabe; Amanda Dennett, Andy Heaney, the DEX team and staff at the Australian War Memorial; Jemahl Casper (Goreng Goreng); Gavin Malone; the Spencer family.




The opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of individual contributors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Australian War Memorial.