By Megan Spencer © 2018
Credits and additional information - Episode 1
Credits and additional information - Episode 2
Credits and additional information - Episode 3
Credits and additional information - Episode 4
Episode 5: “Defending Country”
National Reconciliation Week episode!
Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people have served in every conflict, peacekeeping and humanitarian operation in which Australia has been engaged. One of the most celebrated soldiers is Gunditjmara man Captain Reginald Saunders. While it's not known whether they knew each other, “Reg” and Megan’s grandfather Harry served in the same battalion during the Second World War, fighting the very same battles against the German forces in Libya and Greece, with both eventually stranded on Crete.
As soldiers they were equals, sharing very similar experiences. Back home it was a different story: in spite of his service, Saunders and his young family faced continual discrimination and disadvantage, due to his race. This did not happen to Harry.
Continuing further down the road of remembrance and historical empathy, in Episode 5 Megan explores the extraordinary yet unheralded story of Indigenous service and sacrifice for Australia – and the important recovery work being done to ‘square the ledger’, when it comes to this ‘quieter’ aspect of Australia’s military history.
>> Warning: Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander listeners are advised that this episode (and its associated material) contains the names of, references to, voices and images of people who have since passed away.
Credits and additional information - Episode 5
From a whisper to a bang! A six-part podcast series about war, remembrance, Australian prisoners of war in Germany during the Second World War, and an emotional journey of historical empathy, presented and produced by Australian broadcaster Megan Spencer.
With her grandfather’s handwritten wartime memoirs tucked in her back pocket, Spencer’s podcast takes her around the world and back: from the crumbling ruins of Germany’s Stalags and the historic battlefields and gravesites of Flanders, to the hallowed halls of Australia’s biggest shrines and institutions, and its unassuming neighbourhood RSLs.
Beginning with her family’s story, Spencer attempts to “walk a mile” in the shoes of her late grandfather, Corporal H.B. “Harry” Spencer, 2/7th Battalion. She will examine the inter-generational ripple effect of her grandfather’s wartime experience as a German prisoner of war after being captured in the battle for Crete in 1941.
One of 13 children, (five of whom served over two world wars), Corporal Spencer went from being a “39-er” on active service in North Africa and Greece, to overnight becoming a “Kriegie” – an Allied prisoner of war. He was interned between 1941 and 1945 in four separate camps, crossing vast distances and encountering innumerable hardships, the consequences of which have never really been talked about – until now.
Spencer’s podcast investigates the role of remembrance: what we remember and how we remember it, exploring the tenet of “Lest we forget” and whether it still means what it used to. One hundred years after the end of “the war to end all wars”, Spencer posits that perhaps the time has come to ask, do we remember well? Do we take the responsibility of peace seriously enough? In this age of “post-truth”, “unsocial” media, and “alternative facts”, are we forgetting the legacy of the two world wars?
From a whisper to a bang! includes rich and revelatory conversations with family members, military historians, civilians, serving members, Indigenous culture custodians, and experts on empathy. It also features discussions with battlefield “pilgrims” who, just like Spencer, are searching for answers about their own loved ones. Everyone has a story.
The narrative is punctuated by field recordings and intimate voiceover links, with music by Cretan–Australian duo Xylouris White, bridging the fateful shore on which Corporal Spencer’s wartime fortunes changed in an instant.
Each month’s episode will be released on the Australian War Memorial website and will be available through all major podcast hosts.
The opinions expressed in this podcast series are those of individual contributors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Australian War Memorial.
Credits from episode one of From a whisper to a bang podcast.
08 January 2019
My heart stops. There he is.
At the end of another endless click of the mouse – it’s him. Harry. My grandfather. Hiding in plain sight on the Australian War Memorial website.
“I found you,” I say out loud.